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Posting #12
Positive
Responses
(See
also "endorsements" above.)
"No
thoughtful reader is likely to agree fully with any book as stimulating
and provocative as this one. But Neal Punt probably will not mind.
He is far more interested in stirring up fresh thought than in eliciting
sleepy 'Amens.' If reading this book makes you respond, 'but something
more needs to be said,' Punt will say 'Amen.' And challenge you to
say it!" (Edward Fudge, in Foreword to What's Good About
the Good News?).
I
neither ask for nor do I publish the many "Amens" I receive
in response to these postings. This posting will be an exception to
this policy.
I
recognize my accountability for "aggressively promoting"
Biblical Universalism* "to CRC pastors via email." (See
Frequently Asked Questions, No. 12) To do so responsibly I must be
made aware of valid criticism. However, in addressing only negatively
framed questions some readers have been left with the impression that
I do not receive any positive responses.
Contact Neal
Punt at: whenindoubt3@att.net
Hello Rev. Punt.
I'm
the pastor of [name] CRC in [City]. I want to thank you for your
postings and your emails. I've been studying your teaching on the
scope of God's saving grace and 'Biblical Universalism' (I've read
both of your books and all your postings) and I have been persuaded
that your approach is the correct one. I've preached one sermon
on the basic premise of how we are to understand the so-called 'Universalistic'
texts- focusing mainly on Romans 5:18. I acknowledged to the congregation
that only one sermon on this new way of looking at the subject matter
left many unanswered questions and loose ends and that I would like
to follow that one sermon up with other related messages if the
elders of the church agreed that it would be worth while. Well,
that sermon initiated a lot of healthy discussion among the people
of our church and in our consistory. Over all, the reaction has
been very positive and the elders were unanimous in having me preach
several more messages on this subject. I'm enthuiastic about this
and between now and Sunday morning will be developing a sermon on
passages like John 3:16 which talk about the role of faith in our
salvation.
Almost
all of my questions have been answered in your books as well as
your postings. I sometimes have other questions and may ask you
some time. Yet, while I may still have some lingering questions,
the perspective of Biblical Universalism has answered many more
questions that I had before reading your material. Keep the postings
coming.
Thanks again for your service to
the Christian community and to the Lord.
Neal Punt,
When
your book was first published, I bought a copy, and have returned
to it many times throughout my 17 years of active ministry in the
CRC. I am so blessed by that book. It has helped me immensely in
dealing with the Biblical teachings of election, predestination,
etc. So I am so very glad that you have written these postings,
and although I have not read them all, I have enjoyed the discussions
that have ensued. Keep up your good work. I have just two days ago
recommended your book to an aspiring preacher now in his pre-sem
years.
Shalom
in Christ,
Neal,
You
are on solid ground--biblically, confessionally and theologically.
Keep up the good work!"
Neal -- Praise the
Lord for the wide distribution of your considerable analyses of
the more troubling aspects of the New Testament message---I'm with
you on your conclusions.
But
this e-mail you quoted reminds me that the idea of 'giving account
to God' of one's use of the talents is so often presented as a scary
proposition. Well, for the guys with 5 talents and 2 talents, it
wasn't scary at all; it was celebration time. Only the guy who buried
his & didn't make it count for anybody's good, found giving
account a scary proposition.
Cordially,
Dear Neal,
I want
to say that I admire so much all that you have done to provoke careful
thinking about the atonement of Jesus. I also believe you are being
a good steward of God's gifts of insight to you in your sharing
of them with as many people as possible. All of us as CRC clergy,
or any other clergy or insightful Christians for that matter, should
be able to read, study, and evaluate Scriptures teaching with new
appreciation because of your great and wonderful contribution.
I want to thank you
very much and want you to know that your insight into the atonement
provides answers to problems about our traditional view that have
bothered me for a long time.
A friend
in Christ,
You are a prophet, worthy of the
Name.
I respect you pluck. You care about
something important and you stand up and are counted. Keep it up!
Dear Neal,
I have greatly appreciated
your postings over the past year and I want to say that the wayyou
have clearly stated the proposition [He then quotes the definition
of Biblical Universalism below*] is exactly what I believe and have
been convinced of for a long time. You have done a great job of
supporting this belief biblically and articulating it.
. .
. I have always believed that 'whatever light of revelation' God
has given to those where Christ has not been explicitly preached,
is not an endorsement of false religions but that this 'light' if
it were saving would ultimately have to be Christ himself though
not known by that name and, if time and opportunity allowed such
a person so saved would immediately embrace Christ if he were explicitly
presented. I understand you to be saying the same. And far from
making the missionary effort irrelevant, it always urgent and compelling
that we be obedient to His command to preach the Gospel. Keep up
the good work.
Respectfully
in Christ.
*NOTE
--BIBLICAL UNIVERSALISM is the teaching that all persons
are elect in Christ except those who the Bible expressly declares
will be finally lost, namely, those who ultimately reject or remain
indifferent to whatever revelation God has given of himself to them
whether in nature/conscience or in gospel presentation.
Biblical
Universalism is based upon these three biblical facts:
a) The so-called "universalistic"
texts speak of a certain-to-be-realized salvation as Calvinist have
consistently maintained and they do so in terms of all persons as
Arminians have always affirmed (Posting No. 2).
b) We must
accept the so-called "universalistic" texts as written.
We may allow only those exceptions that are necessarily imposed
upon these passages from the broader context of the Scriptures as
a whole (Posting No. 3).
c) All
persons, except Jesus Christ, are liable for and polluted by the
imputed sin of Adam (original sin). However, the Scriptures do not
teach or imply that anyone is consigned to eternal damnation solely
on the basis of their sin in Adam APART FROM actual, willful and
persistent sin on the part of the person so consigned (Posting No.
4).
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